11.09    

> home
> About
>
Contact Us
>
Editorial Info

> IEEE-USA

   reader feedback   


11.09

>> Send an E-mail to Today's Engineer

 

... On "Engineering — The Silent "E" in STEM Education" (Oct. 2009)

One of the major problems with K-12 education is that teachers are neither scientists nor engineers. Many retired scientists and engineers would love to teach kids, but the NEA, state governments, and local school districts stand in the way of this happening. I know a retired physics professor who wasn't even allowed to volunteer-teach in classrooms. The excuse: he doesn't have a teaching certificate. Nevermind that he taught competently at a college level for 40 years. The underlying reason: the unions don't want to have to compete with people who actually know something.

Gene Hawkridge
IEEE Member
Kenmore, Wash.

***

The notion of teaching engineering from the viewpoint of a core phenomenology is a fascinating and valuable concept. As I think about this, I see an educational opportunity to introduce the technique of applying mental trade studies to assess the impact of different approaches to problem solving. In my opinion, the honing of this skill alone should provide an invaluable tool to the young mind in other academic endeavors.

Odell Graham
IEEE Life Senior Member
Westlake Village, Calif.

***

As I read the article, I flashed back to Junior College and Calculus. The problem was to determine the most economical dimension of a can given costs for the ends and the sides. That was the first time it all came together for me and I begin to comprehend that all those formulas had practical applications. It is critical to use design principles even in K-12 to help students see the application of what they are being taught to the real world.

Jerrel Wallace
IEEE Member
Austin, Texas

***

... On "Hire the Right Person the First Time" (Oct. 2009)

Excellent article with implications far beyond engineering.

I would add one more element, and that is to avoid the "cattle call" interview process.

Those I've attended as a potential new hire I've walked out of as soon as the process became apparent.

I've fought those when our HR department pushed them as more efficient, for the very reason that I found fewer qualified individuals. The end result being we had only far less qualified individuals to interview, as the rest either didn't show or left early.

Dave Shambley
IEEE Member
Denton, Texas

***

Perfectly makes sense to me. As a fresh graduate job seeker with good academic credentials, I am not getting enough calls from the companies. I understand now that the automated software selection process basically "eliminates" me based on few keywords which my resume might be missing.  Sad but true.

Abhishek Singhal
IEEE Student Member
New York, N.Y.

***

...On "K-12 Engineering Education: A Personal Perspective" (Oct. 2009)

Right on! Entering a science fair project on "The Uses of the ElectroMagnet" with a buddy and winning first place set me on the path to a rewarding career in engineering, thanks to my sixth-grade science teacher! I still have the medal, too.

Richard Almquist
IEEE Life Member
E Stroudsburg, Pa.

***

Making merit-based scholarships available for secondary school students (grades 9-12) would increase accessibility and interest in the engineering arts to this underserved group.

Jim Soriano
IEEE Member
Santa Barbara, Calif.

***

We need more articles like this. I am currently an community college adjunct, and I am always on the lookout for ways to connect theory with real world (or wild kingdom) examples. Articles like this give me ideas on how to make engineering/technology come alive and be relevant.

Rodney Roberts
IEEE Member
Andreas, Pa.

***

I enjoyed Gordon Day's thoughtful commentary on the importance of early-life "engineering" experiences on his academic career and those of his peers in his post, "K-12 Engineering Education: A Personal Perspective." I have similar fond memories of similar formative experiences — not on a farm, but rather roaming the back alleys and junkyards of St. Paul, MN searching for junked radios and other sources as I built various contraptions. The purpose of this message, however, is for oldsters like us to use of extreme caution when seeking such experience when hiring, because it can lead to inadvertent discrimination.

Early in my career (mid-1980s) I had the pleasure of cutting my teeth in a test equipment development group that supported the overseas manufacturing lines of a major USA computer systems manufacturer. Anyone familiar with such work knows that they are a hardware engineer's paradise: constant improvisation, many one-off designs, a lot of informality and a true team atmosphere including engineers, technicians and assemblers. It was also a very male-dominated environment, where engineers hired youngsters who shared there experiences.

The problem with this practice is that it virtually locked out most women and minorities; my peers weren't consciously discriminating, but they were looking for people with certain backgrounds that were unusual for most woman and minorities to exhibit at that time — and, frankly, were not essential to the job. Due in no small part to my own urging and that of a very progressive manager, we were able to recognize potential as demonstrated by project and lab work rather than simply barnyard or basement projects and thus opened up our practices and learned some valuable lessons.

I absolutely agree that we need more STEM exposure at the K-12 level, and we also need to highlight programs such as the Picker Engineering Program at Smith College, the first and only accredited engineering program at a woman's college. But we also need to be careful that we don't put undue emphasis on patterns of experience that inadvertently discriminate...

John S. Erickson, Ph.D.
Norwich, Vt.

***

Back

 

 

Copyright © 2009 IEEE

short circuits

Your Engineering Heritage:
Up for the Count

World Bytes:
The Measure of a Person

viewpoints

reader feedback

archives

archive search